Groentjuh's Server

[Gridfon]

 Referee complaint

[Rex]

GG refs, Gridfon u will prolly get a cheap answer and it won't change anything!

[Dervun]

Looks like this comm should have been kicked..

Rex get lost.

[Skuggi]

Thanks for letting us know. From what I've read in your thread and the message, it seems you're quite right, the beast commander should've been kicked right away. Before I comment further I'd like to hear from Diwo though.

[valli]

I was there as well at that time, was a pity that the refs didn't do anything. They were both active on newerth TS at that time, so I hope the excuse with "I was afk" won't come up

[FiveStar]

wasn't the game over anyways?

like none of the other players rly complained - commanding is frustrating and # seemed 2 had a bad day.

I am deeply sorry I haven't followed the exact rules how they r written down on this forum. If we would follow em strict we would slay/kick 2 much 4 sure.

Did any1 besides Gridfon complain about the game? Wasn't rly much whining about what he done anyways. Game was over at that point I think. Ofc it's not fair 4 the other team members buit oh well in the end it's game and we all rage from time 2 time.

we should just gg & /callvote nextmap
but I am open for any further critics.

[FiveStar]

Diff. question @ skuggi and groen:

Shall we rather follow strict rules or make use of common sense and try 2 make the game enjoyable 4 the majority?

[Gridfon]

[FiveStar]

Allright if it was like that I am sorry as I said.

It's hard as ref, especially when you are playing, to keep an objective pov.

And I dont ignore ppl on purpose expect for Azura.

[Diwo]

the game was over and i stoped the vote becouse it was his first time taht he acted like that. I warned him (u can see in screen). i only do this that the server dont kill in late night. kick wont have helped in this situation.

[djargon]

letting pass also don't help for other players diwo.
doesn't care what time it is. if he gets away with it, other players also gone remind you about this and then it's not concequent.

[valli]

I can't follow either 5*'s nor Diwo's explanation/ excuse/ whatever ... if you both are not willing/ capable to follow the rules, then please leave the refing be.

[Moxy]

i have to agree, he killed tech to end the game, thast kick in my opinion, fivestars attitude of ah well they were losing anyway so no harm done is just not right, ive seen plenty of teams hold on to a draw purley with stata and arcarna before, killing tech shouldnt be done in any circumstances. he should of been kicked.

Diwo attitude is a little different, and whilst i can somewhat see the argument of first offender, the fact that the offence was so sever as killing tech to end the game and spoil other peoples enjoyment, he should of been kicked. as some people have said on here, if people see that u can get away from it, and also have a ref back them up. then sry thats shouldnt happen.

A ref should never back someone of breaking the server rules, espicialy as sevre as killing tech to end the game.

[Skuggi]

I have to agree with what the other referees are saying. I understand that you're hesitant to kick right away without seeing him destroy buildings yourselves. However, you should at least have impeached right away to stop him from doing more damage - then confirm that he was actually destroying buildings and kick. It's one of those things that ruins the game for everyone on the server (including the winning team) and deserves a kick.

Fivestar, to answer your question, of course we want our referees to have common sense and to be able to make the game fair and enjoyable for everyone, even if that means 'bending' a few rules. This, however, seems to be a clear violation of an important rule and that calls for action.

Finally, to Gridfon and anyone else playing on the server at that time, my apologies for this incident.

[Rene]