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Hacking/refpowers on Pulse w/ demo by djinghis
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 Hacking/refpowers on Pulse w/ demo by djinghis
Djinghis hacked humans gold and denied it from increasing

demo link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1gpTwfEsdA_eUZNVTJDeUE4VTQ/view?usp=sharing




What happened?

1. I was comm on the map called the gate, as human commander.
2. Someone killed monkits early on, gold increased to 5,3K
3. if you fast forward, you will see the gold from monkits increase but decrease instantly by 100 gold very fast.
4. later in the same game, djinghis managed to write a /ref python.#someweirdPythonCommandAboutGold line in the chat. Drk instamutes djinghis then.
5. The event happends very early in the game.

In my opinion, this is should result in permanent ban. Either he got his own homemade hack ,or he have gotten a ref pwd from someone. Either way, he is breaking a shit lot of rules with this.


And ps. noone "provocated" djignhis when this happened (as JmZ have said about dijnghis actions earlier).

Ps.2: Ignore djinghis comments on this thread.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:36 pm
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drk
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Looks weird. Right after he joined t1 gold went -100 untill 1500.
JMZ please looks into the server logs if you can. Untill then I count that dj used some sort of his 'hax'.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:46 pm
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djinghis
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Fuck me Europeans are dumb lol

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Trigardon
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Looks like the request money command.

Go ingame:

/playerrequest money 100

You can request a maximum of 250 per one request.

Good Game.
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Stringer
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Yea it's the usual gold request command, same command that allows you to request other stuff, like buffs and such.
There is no hacking involved in that.
And if someone made you think he used hacks by using regular well known game functionality, well, you got trolled, shame on you.

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The Raging Asparagus
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Wow so even when muted he could still drain his team gold?
What a fucking cancer omg..

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:44 pm
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It seems I misjudged the situation, and there is no wanky-panky hacking involved.

However- the gold request command he used - there isnt really alot of players which are aware of that ( I didnt knew it existed).

Also, the frequency he used it in (the gold went down fast...much faster than arrow up + enter can do), is a concern. I assume it was scripted in a loop or something.

I got one question though:
- Why is that gold-request functionality still around? It can only help people get more teamgold than what they need (requesting gold the normal way by picking items is more natural and gets rid of the problem of mentioned script). Not to mention, people which really want to ruin a match can easely do so if abusing such script.

And finally, an apology to djinghis for accusing him of "hacking", it did definately seem like you did nasty stuff from my PoV (maybe you did?).

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:11 pm
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drk
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Stringer wrote:
by using regular well known game functionality

Visible button is a "well known". This is not. You can't track who is wasting all your gold untill the end of the game when it's late. If people start using such "trolling" as you say they can easily kill all public games.
Stringer wrote:
you got trolled, shame on you.

It's not a "trolling". He ruined a game. And my opinion that such behavior deserves a punishment.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:15 am
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Groentjuh
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The commander can deny gold request and a server admin can disable gold requests.
However if someone would want to spoil games he/she can always request items, spawn, use those items after spawning and buy new.
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Daemon
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Clemens added a locktospec ref command for such cases.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:19 pm
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Stringer
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The gold requested this way is exactly the same as gold requested any other way, spamming a medkit button or something. (As groent already pointed out)
There is no significant difference between the two cases in terms of gold wasting. You'd have to still take a cata and eject, etc, which can be spotted.
There is no script needed, you just need to bind that to a button and keep the button pressed.
I do have such binds and I find them useful from time to time, so it's good that functionality is still around.

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Stringer
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As for well known.... okay correction.
Not "well known". Just easy to find with only as much as little curiosity required.

I mean... suppose you have a keybind for a buff. Say, on 'K' button.

1. You get curious how does it work, so you type "bind K" in console, it shows you that "playerequest" command exists.
2. You get curious what does it do, so you type "playerrequest" in console and it shows you "money" among other things you can request.

Anyone thinking the above is a rocket science can now throw rotten tomatoes at me.

I really believe, that people who have any interest in the game, even tiniest bit, found all such commands eons ago.

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Daemon
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Stringer wrote:
I really believe, that people who have any interest in the game, even tiniest bit, found all such commands eons ago.


Did they use it to harm their team and the game, unable to compose their disgruntled selves?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:41 pm
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djinghis
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bullet wrote:
It seems I misjudged the situation, and there is no wanky-panky hacking involved.

However- the gold request command he used - there isnt really alot of players which are aware of that ( I didnt knew it existed).

Also, the frequency he used it in (the gold went down fast...much faster than arrow up + enter can do), is a concern. I assume it was scripted in a loop or something.

I got one question though:
- Why is that gold-request functionality still around? It can only help people get more teamgold than what they need (requesting gold the normal way by picking items is more natural and gets rid of the problem of mentioned script). Not to mention, people which really want to ruin a match can easely do so if abusing such script.

And finally, an apology to djinghis for accusing him of "hacking", it did definately seem like you did nasty stuff from my PoV (maybe you did?).


Apology accepted, just try not to talk shit about ppl who are muted for no reason when you know they can't respond back.

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