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Hardwell · Newbie poster Joined: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 58

kick for drawvote?

Hardwell · Newbie poster Joined: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 58

http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/KxGMTnHd/file.html

he gave racist comments
muted me for calling him a abuser and he didnt stop the drawvote of the draw and gave a fuck of the balli campers

**Posted:** Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:00 pm

Hardwell · Newbie poster Joined: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 58

he altough muted achiles who called him a blind fuck
after mute drk called achiles a jew

**Posted:** Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:01 pm

drk · Newbie poster Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 370

Umad? Seems like you are mad. Only you.
1. Why did I kick Elendil. First of all, since I was like an 'admin' here (there), I told refs and Elendil that I will be very strict vs him + will act without any warnings. This time he made a draw vote and fucked up a game for one side that was about to win. Thanks that now we have different servers and different ref password, I chose wrong one and was late to stop it. So he was kicked later for his bullshit vote. Untill he gets brains he will be out.
2. Achiles. He was trolling so he got his mute. And I'm sorry for you if you don't get that we are joking vs each other with racist jokes.

So again - a player that fucked up a game was kicked and you instead of saying thanks started to whine about this kick. You guys have no balls. At all. I'm sorry for you.

**Posted:** Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:13 pm

Telvek · Newbie poster Joined: 10 Dec 2014 Posts: 185

**Posted:** Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:57 pm

soma · Newbie poster Joined: 27 Feb 2015 Posts: 314

I was there that time but semi-afk (alt+tab) , so i didn't take action in this , i think drk did the correct action , i remember T1 lost 80% from their buildings.

The action done by Elendil is so childish and he know it ,as he is not 3-4 months experience in savage and i believe if he feel that he is correct he could wrote this topic before you.

**Posted:** Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:25 am

Elendil · Newbie poster Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 36

**Posted:** Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:03 pm

Hardwell · Newbie poster Joined: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 58

yes i see this same like Elendil does
and btw u muted me too for calling u an abuser lol

**Posted:** Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:05 pm

drk · Newbie poster Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 370

**Posted:** Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:14 pm

Elendil · Newbie poster Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 36

**Posted:** Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:44 pm

Shitler · Newbie poster Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 38

Elendil you're very annoying in game. you spam/flame comms, players and call lot of shitvotes.

You should restrain a little.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:20 am

djinghis · Newbie poster Joined: 25 Sep 2014 Posts: 554

Remove Drk as ref, we don't illogical morons - dead wood from other failed servers polluting Pulse with there childish hate against players they feel they have a right to make up any excuse to mute/kick. The idea of Pulse as discussed with Jmz was to give equal opportunity to ALL players and no exceptions to the rules and no personal grudges that exempted warnings.

This is an outrage IMO, a draw vote that passes means a majority voted yes so what punishment do they receive? Not only did ref(s) fail to stop the vote, but should they have stopped it at all>? Drk always seemed like the same class as trigardon as ref - extremely narcissistic, tyrannical and conveniently casual when it suited him or his team.

PS: Ghitler spams his shit tenfold.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:16 am

bullet · Newbie poster Joined: 09 Nov 2014 Posts: 78

Imho, the ideal way to handle the situation-

1. If draw vote shows up when its clear for many that t1 is about to loose, a ref can and should stop the vote. Its bad sportmansship to call such a vote, and I believe Elendil should learn that. Give a warning to all t1 and the player who called it, that he will be muted if he calls it again.

2. If the vote is called again, by same player --> stop vote + mute.
if called by another team member --> stop vote, mute.
Dont kick unless absolutely nescesarry.

Last part:
The principle of equal rules for all players is very important. I can understand that drk skips some formal steps with warnings/etc with certain players who keep disrespecting rules. I can understand Drk who gets tired of giving warnings to the same players who keep disrespecting the rules, and sometimes he skips the "best way" to handle things and go straight for the kick.
With these players, the disrespectful players who cant play fair or behave for some reason, in 90 % of the cases, drk is right to do such a thing as kicking/muting them. However, if this happened to a player who normally behaves nice, it would be bad call and a bad ref.

And hardwell, its funny you became active on the forum finally. Some months ago i made a nice topic regarding you and another ref. You didnt even bother to read the report, I am glad you're not ref anymore.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:51 pm

Hardwell · Newbie poster Joined: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 58

And hardwell, its funny you became active on the forum finally. Some months ago i made a nice topic regarding you and another ref. You didnt even bother to read the report, I am glad you're not ref anymore.

wel bullet i was afk for some months cause of work yes
i had no time to read but in the end i read all but it is okay Wink

**Posted:** Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:02 pm

drk · Newbie poster Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 370

**Posted:** Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:09 pm