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 Poll: Marking of punishment in rules.

[Groentjuh]

I believe defining punishments will be pretty difficult to do right.

I believe sometimes different players sometimes deserve different treatment. Or do you believe referees will warn Brainwashed Turk or other players, who frequently insult or who frequently say racist things, before muting them?

Setting punishments in the rules will remove possibilities like that.

Besides that, referees sometimes need to act quick. You don't want some event to ruin a game, because a referee had to first look up what he could do.

I believe generally referees should do the least possible to keep a good experience on the server.

[Trigardon]

[Marbello]

There can be a simple rule at the very end saying:
"Continuous rule breaking will result into individual measurements". These can be set up another day.

Saying "it will be difficult for refs to react quickly - which can ruin a match" is not valid. The very few things that can really ruin a match can be easily remembered.
Kick terrain exploiters immediately (if that will be the consequence). Remember? Siege camping/spawning is a different discussion. Maybe its having no defined consequences that lowers the reaction speed of current referees.

And everyone who was not a referee will disagree with it.

You have a wide set of rules there and yet rely upon the individual judgement of referees to control them. Further, you rely upon their individual judgment to condition people that do not follow your rules. So, you do this for years like that, did it work? Did people learn from your personal way of enforcing rules?

As I see it, one day Hugo gets kicked for bailing, another day not. Of course, what he learns from this is that he has a 50% chance of winning a match. And what Initial learns from the way it is dealt with his racist spam is that you are a fucking bastard for kicking him and Pink is a cool guy for letting him get his attention. So he will continue to get attention and further flame you personally.

Luckily, there is either never a referee online or they do not pay attention to the rules unless they effect their very own team. Because they want to play themselves, I understand that.

So how can you do it? How do you find enough "staff" to cover the server for more than one hour per day?
Because finally, are there enough people in this community who have a judgement like King Solomon that you promote here?

[djinghis]

OFC you need cause and effect in the rules, one players says FU to a ref and the ref kicks them, another player exploits and ruins a game and gets slayed - see where I'm going with this?

[djinghis]