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Elendil
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Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 36
drk refabuse - exploit I just finished playing agains drk. He was comm in the beast team, i was human comm.
He built at last 3-4 exploit subs for behes(you can see it on screens).
Those behes killed my base.
After other refs came to the server he stopped exploiting.
I cant capture that he was comm coz than i pressed tab or / to capture - these screend dont get into the screenshot.
In this game was about 50 ppl, and i can't belive that ref did this shit.
You can ask Chief - he will prove my words.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:15 pm
drk
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Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 370
Please show me where have you seen exploit sub? (even 1)
From that sub on your screenshots behes were spawning on the ground.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:22 pm
Elendil
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Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 36
even if this isn't exploit sub, its not your job to slay exploiters?
if you not doing your job - abadon ref rights
than ref start exploiting - its the start of server death
and this is the one of several subs, i had no time to screen them all, coz your exploit behes were killing my base
and i rebuilt it, so we can survive for ~20 mins(than other refs came and you stop this shit)
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:28 pm
djargon
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Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 206
well if you realy can proof it, do it with a demo you recorded.
sorry but this proofs no exploit, and for me the pictures are all legal
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:51 am
Groentjuh
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Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 618 Location: World > Europe > Benelux > The Netherlands > The hague
If I don't remember correctly, on that map behemoths can push other behemoths up the hill. That is what I am seeing on the screenshot. The sublair has nothing to do with that.
These behemoths pushing each other up the hill could be considered exploiting, but it is hard to drk to both command and keep watching and waiting until a behemoth actually gets on top of the wall to slay him. Like you also noticed, you cannot keep watching it. A commander has other tasks.
It's a referee's task to handle such things, but when they are commanding or playing they may not always have time to handle everything. Especially a commander cannot jump to spectator to handle such situations.
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:55 am
drk
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Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 370
Elendil wrote: even if this isn't exploit sub, its not your job to slay exploiters?
Yes, you are right. But don't forget that I was in com seat and was kinda busy.
Elendil wrote: if you not doing your job - abadon ref rights
ok.
Elendil wrote: than ref start exploiting - its the start of server death
There was no ref exloating. Got it ?
Elendil wrote: and this is the one of several subs, i had no time to screen them all
All my subs were legal. Another thing was that behes were pushing each other.
Elendil wrote: coz your exploit behes were killing my base
They were not. Behes were hitting your players over mist wall. Since start only 1 behe got over mist wall and I made /ref slay that behe. But I was late cause a) behe was killed by towers b) my ref pwd was off when I was com.
Elendil wrote: than other refs came and you stop this shit)
a) I didn't stop any shit because I didn't start any shit.
b) there were 3 refs afaik from start of the game.
ps - you lost cause my team sacced your shield several time. You lost. Deal with that.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:11 am
deathrevenge
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Joined: 08 Aug 2009 Posts: 61
Fact that some behes jump over to others to get up is not an exploit.
To support this ,that game was going for hours and that so called behe exploit didnt help him to kill any building
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:27 am
Moxy
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Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 291 Location: UK
if anyone its the behs exploiting not drk.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:35 am
Elendil
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Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 36
Groentjuh wrote: If I don't remember correctly, on that map behemoths can push other behemoths up the hill. That is what I am seeing on the screenshot. The sublair has nothing to do with that.
These behemoths pushing each other up the hill could be considered exploiting, but it is hard to drk to both command and keep watching and waiting until a behemoth actually gets on top of the wall to slay him. Like you also noticed, you cannot keep watching it. A commander has other tasks.
It's a referee's task to handle such things, but when they are commanding or playing they may not always have time to handle everything. Especially a commander cannot jump to spectator to handle such situations.
He could say to the chat that this behe would be slayed, and i think this might stop them. But he was slient till other refs came.
I couldn't watched coz my base was killing by exploit behes, and dont think drk had same problems.
And, at this stage of game, beast had full tech, so drk had a lot of time to slay this behes.
After other refs came - he stop building exploit subs, so we hold for 20-30 mins
I have seen how ref slayed and kicked players many times, while they were playing as comms.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:02 pm
Elendil
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Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 36
drk wrote: Elendil wrote: even if this isn't exploit sub, its not your job to slay exploiters?
Yes, you are right. But don't forget that I was in com seat and was kinda busy.
Elendil wrote: if you not doing your job - abadon ref rights
ok.
Elendil wrote: than ref start exploiting - its the start of server death
There was no ref exloating. Got it ?
Elendil wrote: and this is the one of several subs, i had no time to screen them all
All my subs were legal. Another thing was that behes were pushing each other.
Elendil wrote: coz your exploit behes were killing my base
They were not. Behes were hitting your players over mist wall. Since start only 1 behe got over mist wall and I made /ref slay that behe. But I was late cause a) behe was killed by towers b) my ref pwd was off when I was com.
Elendil wrote: than other refs came and you stop this shit)
a) I didn't stop any shit because I didn't start any shit.
b) there were 3 refs afaik from start of the game.
ps - you lost cause my team sacced your shield several time. You lost. Deal with that.
So, if i will do cata exploit to your base, you wont slay me too? Coz you dont have time to do it?
First of all, not one behe passed, i saw several behes who died from mortals and human players than they pass throught mist wall.
My shield died only becouse ALL my team were killing exploiting behes, so it was very easy for rest of your team sac chemical fatories.
And 5-7 players bailed than you start exploiting, that the reason why you won.
DONT LIE ABOUT REFs! YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE!! Then Brad Troika and Gridfon came all exploits stopped, and your pro team couldn't kill half-death base without mortals for 20-30 mins.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:10 pm
djargon
Newbie poster
Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 206
Elendil. please don't accuse somebody of lieing when you don't post a demo to proof it!
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:06 pm
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