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 Make buffs officer-only

[Telvek]

Re: Make buffs officer-only

[EnglishSlug]

the question is really offering to remove a power from the comm.

comms can already set buffs to offis only.

i'd say no because esp. if you go afk etc. its beneficial to set buffs to team not just offis as you'd be afk when good players join ur team and could effectively use those buffs.

[Tasty]

I started this in Ref Forum, so will F1 here aswell

[Tjens]

When a commander takes the seat buffs are automatically set on officers only, so unless a commander - in all his wisdom and expertise - enables autobuffs for all players on the field it's gonna be disabled anyway.

As English slug said, when the commanders goes afk, sets buffs auto on all players and leaves to have a wank-a-marathon or something the team can always decide to elect a new commander that knows how to give away officer flags.

Not so much a server-side discussion in my opinion.

[Tasty]

noone should be afk in commanderseat!

[bullet]

I find this topic unclear.

A: is the idea to set the buffs to officer only permanent and statically (comm cant change it)

or B: To change the default buff option in the commander seat, but comm and experienced commanders can change it back.


If A is the case,I have to strongly disagree. Not only does the team gets harder punished IF the comm should go afk to the toilet for a minute or two, its also makes the game harder for newbies to learn to command. Remember that we only have one active server, and even we gotta let newbies command every now and then (best case, 2 at once).

Not to mention the tactical disadvantage a team have when he dont have time to buff the players who need it.

If B is the case, I dont mind. As long as the commander have the option to set the buffs to FFA.


And one last note: I have a feeling this topic arises due to many vets rejoining the game lately, and not happy someone else uses their buffs when they are officer. Try play a day without buffs at all, and see take note for every situation u could have needed a buff. Hell, imagine how many sneak subs Phoe have stumbled across his time, and could have needed a buff.

[djinghis]

Re: Make buffs officer-only

[jazzking]

Maybe autobuffing should be left on for the situation where a noob comm doesn't know how to help a saccer.
However I would like to see buffs balanced better so that it's not rewarding to use in pvp. Or perhaps autobuffs are only enabled within a certain radius of an enemy building.

[djinghis]

*Auto-buff by default is set to off (changing this requires a game patch) (or simply communicating to the commander to turn it on).
*The most effective and rewarding sacs are with heals done by the player (and by communicating with the commander to turn them off until the sacer is ready).
*The only effective measure against 2 or more players simultaneously attacking you is to buff, not to mention freeing up an area for access to buildings.

Not having this essential feature diminishes the game experience, and those who never get officer will never learn it. I think officers get too much as is with marking and regeneration, extending the gap between player (newb) and officer (vet) can only contribute to an already damaged learning curve of this game.

I think the issue of buffs overpowered/overused/restricted to, delves deeper than simply "officers only" server settings. The ability is classic RTS micro management, lets not dumb down the game.

[Tasty]

Re: Make buffs officer-only

[Ale]

The buff power belongs to the commander. He builds the necessary buildings, he's the one to decide who may use em.

IF buffs get wasted too much its a common practice to turn buffs off and giving them manually to the people that need them (i.e. saccing a shield). So a comm should always be able to turn buffs on or off for everyone/offis cause even offis waste buffs sometimes.

Locking buffs to offis only might get frustrating if say, you are a common player finding yourself in a gamechanging position and all you need is the help of a single buff. Asking your comm for buffs often doesn't help as most comms don't even react on those calls anymore.

Locking buffs to a certain radius of enemy buildings won't do it either. You need buffs for much more than attacking enemy buidlings. Speed buffs for sneaking or getting a gate in time for instance or defending your shield with an elec, finishing the last few % of your forward garr with a mag, taking down that shield buffed lego in your base with fire and heal buffs etc.

On the other hand, forcing comms to manually buff some players from time to time might teach them how to buff properly, an important skill for CWs which most commanders completely suck at.

As an experienced comm and selfbuffer I say, leave it the way it is. Changing it will cause more problems than it solves.

[jazzking]

Yeah as much as I dislike buffs used against me I think this problem cannot be fixed with server settings. The game itself needs to adjust how they work.

[djinghis]

Re: Make buffs officer-only