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The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
The Raging Asparagus re-applying for ref Hi,
Applying for ref.
My ref guidelines would be:
1) Mute brainwashed turk after first insults' spam
2) Kick brainwashed turk when repeating insults' spam after mute.
3) Kick Captain Kenway on sight no matter what he did unless he opens a post/topic on forum promising he will not exploit again.
4) Behe campers and Balli campers should not be slayin in my opinion due to new demo behavior (I am flexible here if you think I'm wrong).
5) Comm spawn as siege would be slayin on sight and 2nd time slayin+warning, 3rd time => kick.
6) Any damage caused by exploit terrain (cata/mortar etc..) will be auto-kick without warning assuming it was done on purpose and not a rogue hit + redstone and gold compensation to the victim.
7) Stopping a draw vote if the goal is to prevent an obvious match loss in the immediate time.
Basically I'm not against flaming on chat and I will not mute someone just because he made a sarcastic or derogatory remark. However if it's a pattern I might mute (depends how much I care and how racist/insulting was the comment).
9) I will try to be as present as possible (I cannot commit on certain hours but I would say my average Savage online time is ~3-4 hours per day).
10) I will put to spec ppl which are afking mid match. If they come back and their team is full it's their problem.
* Anyway i'm not a bot-ref.. I can apply common sense on various situation when they don't exactly fit the frame
Regards,
TRA
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:14 pm
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soma
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Joined: 27 Feb 2015 Posts: 314
Welcome and good luck with your application TRA,
please give us more information about yourself if you would like to fill the below info.
do you have teamspeak installed? or are you using any other application..?
your name:
Age:
Location:
how many hours you can be online on savage (hours/days)
Thanks,
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:42 pm
The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
Quote: do you have teamspeak installed? or are you using any other application..?
your name:
Age:
Location:
how many hours you can be online on savage (hours/days)
My name: TRA or whatever I found amusing for me. My real name is Tzvika (assuming a name can be "real" in some sense).
I installed teamspeak before and can re-install it. I don't have a mic currently but if it's necessary I'll buy one (not sure why I would need it as ref).
Location: Your Sinai neighbor from east (AKA Israel or Israhell).
Age: 34
I can be online about 3-4 hours every day.. many times during noon as well.
Regards,
Tzvika
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:48 pm
Jegenrapo
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Joined: 14 Dec 2015 Posts: 195 Location: Czech Republic
Good luck!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:58 pm
emoplaya
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Joined: 25 Apr 2012 Posts: 86
Good Luck!
Teamspeak is not needed as ref but can he helpful to discuss situations.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:58 am
The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
Quote:
Good Luck!
Teamspeak is not needed as ref but can he helpful to discuss situations. Smile
Are you Rio D'oro?
When we play pub is there anyone on team speak that I can communicate the situation with? I only used the team speak for CW as far as I remember.
Also strange SOMA is replying here after stating 100 times lately he isn't a ref anymore
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:24 am
soma
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Joined: 27 Feb 2015 Posts: 314
Teamspeak as Rio mentioned is not used 24/7 but only in some situations.
you're correct im ref only in Pulse server that you already applied to, not any other servers.
just went inactive for sometime and we have to say it.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:04 pm
Trigardon
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Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Posts: 376
Even if TRA is disliked by alot of players, I personally never had any problem with him. He has the perfect knowledge of the rules and I'm sure he's capable of doing a good job.
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:00 pm
The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
Trig, in addition to what you said.
I am not trying to win the popular vote.. I am trying to make some order due to the latest chaos that happens.
Again, if you find popularity or likability a necessary virtue for ref then don't give me the role, I am here because you asked me to take responsibility.
If I am disliked I can understand this because I "trash talk" a lot.
For me it's part of the fun. I don't use racial slurs or something too offensive.
Probably this is not the best perk a referee (or a player) can have but I don't see it as an obstacle.
TRA
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:51 pm
Stringer
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Joined: 28 Jan 2014 Posts: 55
I think I will say what is on everyone's mind:
You trash talk, get angry, rage and flame so much and so often, I find it really hard to believe you will not display the same behaviour with your ref powers.
I think you will abuse it just because you will think it's part of the fun.
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:30 pm
The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
Last time I checked if someone is abusing their ref powers you can complain about them.
Regardless, you are making a wrong correlation between flaming on chat (like many other players do) to abusing powers.
I could just as well exploit as regular player if you make such correlation.
Can you tell me if you ever muted/kicked/slayed me?
If no, why is that?
Anyway I find trash talk part of the legit game.. to get the other player off balance a bit. Just like in sports.
I know it is against rule num 1, but from my first day in Savage until today I didn't see anyone gets mute/kick for trash talk. 3dman would trash talk a lot yet he's ref.
But again if many dislike me and don't want me to be ref I will remove my nominee..
I am applying because I was asked to take responsibility, I find being ref an extra "pain" for me for the sake of myself and the community to play with less exploits. I'm not here to listen what any jerk in Savage thinks about me, I should get encouraged to take ref and not the other way around.
Idiotic comments like yours Stringer is the reason I removed application last time and I'm thinking about doing it again.
I have no personal joy from reffing.
Why do you think a ref should be a favorable character? it should be a fair character, playing by the rules and willing to make order.
I'm not applying here for clan membership.
Actually I believe that if people dislike me they should encourage me to take ref since I'll be much more in spec and much less on field
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:49 pm
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The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
You know what..
fuck it..
Sorry Trig, I'm pulling the application as I don't want to go against "everyone's opinion".
People in this community are not worth my will to put an effort.
It's one thing to be disliked by flamers like bots or _K_ and another when Stringer is saying bad things about me (I do have respect for Stringer as being an honest player).
So Stringer IMO you are full of bullshit really, you know what you say has no correlation to ref abuse.. hence unless you apologize I revoke my application.
And look at that:
A REF FLAMING ON CHAT JUST NOW!! This means he must be a ref abuser as well:
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:01 pm
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Stringer
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Joined: 28 Jan 2014 Posts: 55
I am not making correlation, I am making a personality judgement call based on the only data I have - your behaviour in game.
I agree it is not the most precise measurement tool, however, it is the only one available short of actually giving you ref and seeing what happens.
Also it was a test of sorts.
People throw all kind of shit at refs. And you need to riposte it while remaining calm.
My little comment wasn't all that offensive, basically I just expressed my concerns without sugarcoating them, that's all.
Do you think you handled it well?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:11 pm
Stringer
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Joined: 28 Jan 2014 Posts: 55
Quote: Regardless, you are making a wrong correlation between flaming on chat (like many other players do) to abusing powers.
I could just as well exploit as regular player if you make such correlation.
Can you tell me if you ever muted/kicked/slayed me?
If no, why is that?
For fairness sake, I think those are good points. Should have stopped at them.
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:23 pm
The Raging Asparagus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 127
With all do respect Stringer we know each other for more than 7 years at least.
We also had several conversations about many topics: computers, personal life, nonsense, savage gossip..
and it's not a little comment when you say "EVERYONE" is sharing this opinion of me.
If you imply you can only judge me by my chat sarcasm/trash and you infer this might mean I'll compromise ref authority then it's disappointing.
Anyway as said.. I'm revoking my application so this conversation is redundant.
And 5 minutes after you left Kenway exploited on xr_choke.. so you can think about what jeopardizes community more (me having ref or Kenway wrecking havoc).
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:24 pm
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