Groentjuh's Server

[Gridfon]

 JmZ

[djinghis]

Actually Savage picked up the moment pulse started, I've been having shits and giggles ever since you and trigardon lost all your petty power and you don't play savage anymore as a result lel.

[The Raging Asparagus]

Picked up?
Savage has more than 10 active players (not speccing) about 6-8 hours a day on Weekends and 4-6 hours on Work days.

Rest of the time we are talking about very small sized games which are highly unbalanced or involve totally nib comms.

I wouldn't say this game is gaining any momentum.
Surviving with a tendency to a slow death I'd say.

[djinghis]

[coincoinmiaou2]

Hmm didn't see that nii Sama can get so toxic. Was afk spec watching a movie this day. Good to have some proofs

[JmZ]

Maintaining neutrality is a difficult job, one of the primary reasons Kingdom and G&G didn't do too well in later years (as djinghis said, also why pulse was created, partially).

I muted the person you're quoting after a warning or two. Indeed, we mute when any racism occurs. However, in this case, I could see the two people in question (kenway and his clanmate) would stop using the word if they noticed the warning.

After talking to each of them, they did stop. Although I did have to mute nii-sama because he started again shortly after.

Guaranteed, every ref who exists would have simply muted both of them repeatedly until they stopped talking. I am too tolerant at times, but in most cases (and half of this one), the problem can be resolved with the person (I messaged kenway and all was well then).

Unfortunately, people do provoke kenway heavily and that is the reason for almost all the trouble he causes. I should have muted him right away but felt it was better to warn him and have him stop (which he did do).

note:

in the rare times when i do login to ref, i will be muting both of them after a single use of such a word. because I have warned both now and they understand fully that they shouldn't use such words. this was the exception (which worked, but not fast enough).

[djinghis]

Re: JmZ

[Gridfon]

Thanks for the elaborate answer JmZ.

[djinghis]

Maybe you should get a job?

[JmZ]

Gridfon, there was no direct change in my opinion on that.

At the point in time you mention, djinghis was causing a lot of trouble (mostly again provocation and the fact that insta-kicking anyone is like throwing fuel on a fire). so he knows very well his behaviour was far more uncontrolled than it is now and he was on a "insta-kick ban" for it.

What the server admin defines as the rules is what should be enforced. Groentjuh defined that djinghis be insta-kicked, so regardless of what anyone thinks, he should be. When starting pulse, however, this period of drama had died off mostly and djinghis just wanted to play. So of course, I didn't simply copy over Groentjuh's ban/kick list (its his list, not mine), meaning djinghis is the same as any other player and shouldn't be kicked on sight.

As for racism, i stand by the fact that it should be an immediate mute. In this one case, I thought it was logical to warn in the hope that the person in question then stops. He did, so i did nothing further. But i admit, in actual fact, i should have just muted him.

Also, you are right, i don't play enough to know how kenway is on a regular basis. I'm counting on my refs to know that and manage him as needed (and anyone else).

[tushaar]

ragequituninstall

[Trigardon]

[djinghis]