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SAS not doing his job
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APirateHat
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 SAS not doing his job

Was playing today some hours ago and was really disappointed how SAS handled not doing anythig about Rin.

Rin doing his usual thing with spouting nigger and trolling, SAS decided against muting him and rather go on about how he's apparently not really worth muting and that the server can try and do that(which it tried but failed).

I understand being a Referee isn't only about instantly muting and kicking people and that the context matters but Rin called someone nigger and also used a pretty offensive name, which goes against the first rule:

"1. Players are not allowed to insult other players.
-Any kind of racism is not tolerated. Players are not allowed to whine, flame, moan or condemn other players in-game.
"

I was happy to see that SAS got ref because I've felt there haven't been a lot of refs around and there has been a bit too much rule-breaking and racial slurs lately, creating a bad atmosphere. But when he's not doing anything about upholding the rules it is a bit sad. I understand that refs make mistakes but in this case SAS didn't do anything and just followed his own philosophy.

Here are some screenshots which I hope can help in deciding what will happen. Or perhaps it is me who is wrong.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/62225ayq9mmu3yn/shot00104.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vxf6sm8n0lasa3u/shot00106.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k64jdza36utkacu/shot00109.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yr6qevl3h9j25tk/shot00111.png

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:17 pm
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SAS
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i can't see how anyone can take the guy seriously. he always flame me aswell, but i only lough, cuz i know he's flaming everyone, so why should i care? the server got permission to kick him whenever they want. what more can u ask for? i really think about rin diffrently than the rest flamers in the server.
but maybe i'm wrong, i dunno.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:42 pm
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APirateHat
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SAS wrote:
i can't see how anyone can take the guy seriously. he always flame me aswell, but i only lough, cuz i know he's flaming everyone, so why should i care? the server got permission to kick him whenever they want. what more can u ask for? i really think about rin diffrently than the rest flamers in the server.
but maybe i'm wrong, i dunno.


It isn't about taking him seriously or not but rather to create a better atmosphere which the server can't do on its own because of votes not passing. Rin was breaking the rules which usually is awarded with a mute/kick.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:52 pm
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SAS
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if rin is such a destruction to the community, why groent doesn't ban him? anyhow, noted, and i'll mute him more often, since u have a right idea on the atmosphere issue.
i do believe every community need someone they can hate, rin is a perfect person to that Smile the refs are also the target for that, but its ok, in the army i had the same from some of my soldeirs. always like that anywhere in life.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:24 pm
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Moxy
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Ref uphold the rules and uphold EVERYONE to them i once kicked feathers, who was a ref himself because of breaking rules, you DO NOT pick and choose who you should enforce the rules on.

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Feathers
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Moxy wrote:
Ref uphold the rules and uphold EVERYONE to them i once kicked feathers, who was a ref himself because of breaking rules, you DO NOT pick and choose who you should enforce the rules on.


lol you kicked me because I call ant and dec cunts Rolling Eyes

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Moxy
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true, but i thought u were saying that to me Razz the point i that you hold everyone to the rules, not just a select few ^^

PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:02 pm
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Gridfon
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Moxy wrote:
true, but i thought u were saying that to me Razz the point i that you hold everyone to the rules, not just a select few ^^


So you kick everyone whenever they call someone cunt? When someone calls me a cunt, do you promise to kick them after I ask you? After all, the rules apply equally to you and me, when it comes to being called cunts.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:07 am
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Moxy
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if it was meant as a digorative statment possible. i dont feel the need to discuss what happend between me and feathers, the point i was trying to make is that you hold everyone to the same rules. could i of made that statment without bringing up what happend between the two of us, possible, but the point remains.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:46 pm
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SAS
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point is clear.
there's another point i talked with groent about, and it suppose to be on another new post, but i'll type it here for now.
the thing about the 'fag' 'fagget' going around in the server sometimes. tbh i can't understand the stupidity in allowing such a thing when it's obviously in a curse meaning, just as: "gay, jew, arab, nigger......" sometimes being said. what is the diffrence between saying: "shut up nigger." to --->" shut up fagget." ??? anyway imo, saying fagget and fag in a term of a curse (as 90% is used for) is wrong and should be forbidden, and groent agrees with me.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:44 pm
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Moxy
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i agree too, its meant as an insult, the rule dosent describe what kinda insult is forbidden. it says ALL insults are.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:24 pm
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SAS
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i've been told there was some kind of a discussion about the fag word and that it was approved to use. never bothered really searching for it tho.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:27 pm
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Moxy
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if that is the case then i strongly disagree. i wonder if the peole who said its okay know the true meaning of the word?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:12 pm
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